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GOD IS DEAD. HE IS NO MORE. HE IS KAPUT.

Now I am not going to interfere with someone's democratic right to practice his/her chosen religion in any way shape or form. Freedom of religion is one basic human rights principle that should be protected vigorously by all.

There is no point for instance for the Catholic Church to sit on billions of Euros while many of its followers struggle for a daily meal.
Having said that though, I think some of the facts of life should be made known in terms of what is fact, what is fiction, what is religious business and what is pure religious fraud and/or extortion.

Facts are these. Science has now more than adequately proven that god or gods did not create earth, that earth was not created in a number of days and that Adam and Eve might well have been the couple next door doing some fancy footwork before having a good old bonk and that, as such, the bible is thus a book of fiction that should not be taken seriously as a book of truth.

The fact thus is that while in past centuries religious myths could be peddled as fact, science has more than adequately proven that religious theory and doctrine can easily be written off as bollocks. The whole notion of creationism as well as the more recent ridiculous 'intelligent design' theories can thus be written off as nonsense.


So having established that there is no god and that there never was one, or two, or three or even a dozen gods, we can now establish as to what were the reasons for religions having been established and/or created.

Simple really. Power by a few over many and pure and simple greed.

So where to from here?

First of all, religious organisations, religious sects and cults must be
As there have been way too many instances of pedophilia within religious organisations, all religious operators who may be in contact with children must be checked as to their background
forced to become accountable in terms of their financial activities and practices. There is no point for instance for the Catholic Church to sit on billions of Euros while many of its followers struggle for a daily meal.

Parishioners and the outside world must have audited access to the financial balance sheets of religious organisations.

Apart from their humanitarian aid missions, most of which do very good work, religious entities must start paying taxes just like any other business organisation.

False advertising along the lines of "god or Jesus said this or god or Jesus said that" must cease as such advertising is not based on truth.


Like councillors and advisers that operate within various Government departments and other financial and business entities throughout the world, all church-based councillors and advisers must be qualified in order to be allowed to operate with their field and that should include the ministers, priests, nuns, mullahs, rabbis as well as their staff and their hangers-on.

As there have been way too many instances of pedophilia within religious organisations, all religious operators who may be in contact with children must be checked as to their background and those having been found wanting in terms of their ultimate intention in relation to children must be removed from having contact with them.
The hiding behind so-called religious and church laws in order to exert power should be no more.

Religious organisations and individuals who have and still are shuffling people around to other locations upon such people having been found wanting in terms of their dealings with children should be able to be charged with offences such as 'concealing a crime' or 'purverting the cause of justice'. The hiding behind so-called religious and church laws in order to exert power should be no more.

There is no such thing as church law, sharia law or any other religious law. The law of the land, Government law, or International law applies. Religious entities simply do not have the legal power or authority to create or apply laws.

So there you have my take on religious practitioners and organisations brought into the 21st century.

Now where that's bloody prayer book? Oops out with rubbish it went. Ah well.


My name is Henk Luf.
And That's The Way It Is.






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Nisk says on 2010-02-18 02:20:31 about God is out there
God is out there , we don't know in what form , he may be a huge form of intelligent energy all around us (after all our intelligence is only electrons moving around our brains ) or he may be some other sort of unknown form , but he is there and created all this .










Nisk says on 2010-02-18 02:19:10 about God is out there
God is out there , we don't know in what form , he may be a huge form of intelligent energy all arround us (after all our intelligence is only electrons moving around our brains ) or he may be some other sort of unknown form , but he is there and created all this .










yes says on 2010-02-17 19:22:30 about Science Vs. Religion
I just wanna post a quick comment on your statement about Science disproving religion. What has science proven if not for the fact that there are infinity questions hidden within every other question?

Every time a question is posed, science has worked to answer it. Where are your answers? Whats the human body made of? Cells! But what are cells made of? Molecules! But what are molecules made of? Atoms! Then quarks and now what?

Sure I find the idea of creationism and some of the biblical stories to be a bit crazy but I personally see the Bible as full of truth provided you don't take it literally. Just because Science has an idea of how the earth was made doesn't mean the bible is 100% false and therefore there is no God. Amidst all the questions brought by science, the idea of a God looks to me the only plausible reason that any of these scientific discoveries exist.

Just because MY senses don't immediately pick up a higher power doesn't mean its not there. Try explaining the beauty of a garden to an ant and then one might get an idea of what its like to explain God to a human. Its almost a hunch, you just know somethings gotta be out there... Do you believe in love? You see it through other people who've experienced it. If you shut yourself out from it, you'll never understand...

Sorry for the length on a small portion of the article, I like to rant a lot!










Henk says on 2009-12-20 17:28:29 about Fascism
No Virgil
I am not for communist nazism as you put it or any other such objectionable regimes.
I am for factual truth as well as the notion that so-called religious leaders and people in trusted positions should keep their hands off small children.










Virgil says on 2009-12-19 12:27:47 about Fascism
Sounds like you are for Communist Nazism.










david says on 2009-11-29 03:53:31 about pedophilia
i have to comment on this one too. pedophilia exists but it is NOT the doing of the church. you yourself know it is not acceptable. Heres a good point that i've mentioned..the Church does NOT force anyone to live a certain way and does NOT control the actions of them. try to emphasize that it happened in a Church is plain dumb










david says on 2009-11-29 03:41:31 about seein the wide picture
I'm not catholic and i'm not saying I support how they use their money, but one of us needs to be honest so don't worry i'll be the one. I don't know everything about their the religion. However like every church they do distribute what is contributed to them. Let remember nobody holds members at gun point to join or stay in the Church. What has been contributed was taxed so the government did receive its cut. When Vatican was purchased the money was circulated into the economy. How many articles have you writen on Bill Gates no keeping any money or about him not lowering prices when he has enough to rent out the white house for the next 60,000+ years? Wait oh thats right people decided to purchase his products. Oh wow how dare them choose how to use their money! i'm pissed at society now. haha joking but when someone gave you a pricey gift how much taxes did you pay on it to the government? can i guess that you didn't? i know i know its not the same as a church receiving millions but its the principle thats being discussed right?
I cannot speak for every Church out there but the ones I have attended all contribute to society. the one i'm at right now has built orphanages out of its pocket. the one i attended before this one helped financially and physically internationally. thats right they spent their own money and time to receive nothing more than God's grace.

Almost forgot...why isn't anyone debating my scientific FACTS of why THERE IS A GOD....

oh if you don't mind me asking how much of your paycheck do you save and how much do you conribute to others?










anon. says on 2009-11-28 21:06:23 about
To David - But the Catholics, and other churches, DO hoard money instead of giving it to the poor. FACT! Otherwise, how on earth would a 'religion' be able to afford to have its own 'City'? i.e. Vatican City. Beats me. Seems the church doesnt need any biblical teachings to do that. Actions speak louder than words.

To VCSU. There should NOT be ANY pedophilia within ANY church, or any other organisation, that is SUPPOSED to be a trusted organisation that helps people. FACT! For pedophilia to exist within 'trusted' humanitarian organisations is much worse than it existing elsewhere. And it STILL goes on! Just because their is corruption and pedophilia outside the church DOES NOT excuse it from existing inside it.

Luf, if you have read the article thoroughly, was not critising other peoples beliefs (if you read the beginning of the article and not skipped that part, which I think may have been the case) he was critising other so-called dubious 'activities' of the church.










VCSU says on 2009-11-28 17:36:19 about God
First off i feel sorry for self centered people like Luf who have chosen to make themselves the god of their own universe. People like him miss the whole point of life, and feel the need to criticize other's beliefs. Its one thing to share your oppinion but its quite different when your knocking down someone elses. Like David said, science CAN prove their is a god, just as well as it can prove there isnt. I suggest you guys look at both sides before you establish any of your own beliefs. Its just easier for me to believe there is a God, than "NOTHING" exploding into millions of stars and planets, and pond scum evolving into loving, laughing, intellectual human beings.
Although i do not agree with Luf, he may have an argument with the financial accountability of some religious organizations.
I just feel that he supported his oppinion like a total nube. Instead of providing RELEVANT facts and proposals, he wrapped his whole argument around pedophilia with in the church. It angers me when people point out such disasters and relate them to the religion itself. Yes there is alot of corruption with in the church, but theres even more outside of it. Not sure what your motives were when you wrote this Luf, but i will be praying for people like you that have not experienced the power of God in their life.










david says on 2009-11-28 03:17:52 about more FACTS
Now about the article.
Science has infact proven that there is a God. Yep thats right PROVEN THAT THERE IS A GOD
heres a few quick facts:
-if we evolved from apes why are they still out there?
-carbon dating has not proven anything. a cocacola can was dug up and carbon dated. guess what...coke has been in business for over 100 million years!!! dang i didn't know they even had aluminum back then
-in space object collide ect. eventually a type of dust and particles float. the moon acts as a magnet for all this. when NASA was going to the moon they planned on landing on feet and feet and feet of dust. when they got there there was only a few inches. guess what...those few inches were calculated to the world only being a few thousand years old

PS bill nye the science guy believes in God. yep the science dude believes in him and i'm gonna be pretty impressed if you know more about science than "the science guy"


almost forgot. Biblical teachings do NOT teach that churches should collect millions and billions while its members are broke. they should give to those in need. the bible teaches to give up what you have for Christ and he will provide.











david says on 2009-11-28 03:08:02 about Facts
-I'm not Catholic but just want to set some things straight. Priests should not have done that thats messed up. Christian means a follower of Christ. Thats not following! But still not only priests have done it the worlds messed up. Christ can forgive them but they must make the choice to change. Them remaining in office is wrong and should not be hiden if that is true. God does not teach to hide things as if they never happened.
-As for counseling. Members of the church are not forced to take the pastors advice. It is choice. The way to decide is to pray and read/seek an anwser for yourself. I'm not saying to disregard the advice. People seem to have the view that if a pastor says to do something like divorce then hey gotta do it. NO!!! Obviously the bible is against that. You try working it out and pray that God softens the hearts of the two. Just one quick example.










Henk says on 2009-11-27 18:37:07 about Nicks comments.
I am sad to see Nick's comments. I shows how much people are not told about the religious entities they belong to.
It is certainly not me who should ask for forgiveness.
It is those who have abused children who should ask for forgiveness. Those religions that advised people to taking certain actions only then to find that the advice was flawed thus making a mess of their lives, should ask for forgiveness. Those who use religion in order to advance their own purposes should ask for forgiveness. I could go on and on with with examples of where religions, sects and cults, which are in essence all the same, have harmed mankind. I am sorry Nick, but those are the fact of life.










nick says on 2009-11-27 01:18:08 about god is dead
your blasephemous, never deny god. you should ask for forgivness.










4634769128467 says on 2009-11-23 18:22:21 about
There is a God.
Deny not, the God of gods, the King of kings, and He shall not deny thee.










sorcaress says on 2009-11-20 14:49:19 about God and J15
Well said BD. I couldn't have put your last sentence better myself. Much damage has been done in the name of 'religion' worldwide, and incredibly, it is still happening. The recent spate of child abuse by priests are only those we have heard about - how many more children are still being abused and yet undiscovered?










BD says on 2009-11-20 00:23:25 about God is dead.
I would agree with Mr Luf that a major overhaul in needed in terms of the ways religious entities do business as to show much improved accountability. As I have seen the mess that some of these people make, I would certainly agree with him that coucillors and church officials should have the appropriate social sciences qualifications before being allowed to expose clients and fellow parishioners to their advice. The conduct of some of these people and subsequent advice provided by them has been less than professional in both legal as well as religious terms.
Well may I suspect that J15 may well one of those clever councillors. It is indeed nice to see that J15 has the capacity to put three whole words together.










j15 says on 2009-11-19 12:18:04 about
fuck you luf










HC/NZ says on 2009-11-16 17:29:47 about God
The pope will not be happy with Mr Luf but then, Mr Luf seems not to be very happy with the Pope so that will even things out.










siim says on 2009-11-16 04:39:18 about can't agree
with any other point. Yours was too right.

and as for priests and children...I remember hearing from somewhere that the church actually had a document saying that such incidents should be hidden from the general public - meaning the priests are probably said "don't do that again, that's bad" and they stay in the 'office'.

now to think about it, I think I heard it from Penn & Teller's bullshit, but then again - so far I've found that to be one of the most reliable sources of ....one-sided information hehe.









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