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SACK THE POPE - AND TURN THE VATICAN INTO A FINE ARTS MUSEUM

Well might you say, "You can't be serious making that statement" and I would then reply that I am very serious in terms of what I am saying and that I have a substantial number of very good reasons for doing so.

First of all I shall have a closer look at the status of the Vatican.

The Vatican is an independent State, which is accountable to no-one and where transparency that is demanded of other independent states simply does not exist.

The system upon which the Vatican operates in terms of its financial dealings through the Vatican Bank has been proven to be suspect on a number of occasions, in terms of mismanagement, corruption as well as a lack of transparency and accountability.
The catholic church (the Vatican) has a multitude of financial assets spread throughout the world that appear not be subject to normal and standard foreign investment review legislation and regulations in relation to any assets purchased, owned or traded in a foreign country.

The Vatican also issues edicts, such edicts to be complied with by
The Vatican is an independent State, which is accountable to no-one and where transparency that is demanded of other independent states simply does not exist
catholics worldwide. Those on the receiving end of those edicts might well be catholics but they are not citizens of the Vatican and accordingly, the edicts of the Vatican can simply be ignored, remembering that only State law applies and that religious law has no legal status in any way, shape or form.

And finally, in relation to the Vatican's status it should be noted that the Vatican and its leaders have yet to prove that the premise upon which it exists i.e., there being a god, and that therefore any dealings the Vatican conducts, any edicts that ruling it may make are thus based on fiction and not on fact.

That being the case, I am of the view the existence of the Vatican as a viable independent entity is no longer relevant and the world could be better served by turning the Vatican into a 'fine arts museum' owned and run by the Italians.

Whom within the Vatican knew about these crimes, when they know it and what was done in relation to bringing the offenders to justice?
Now we come to the status and legal predicament of a substantial number of people within the Vatican, including the Pope, and I shall deal with the most recent serious issues that have come to light in relation to the numerous sex abuse scandals worldwide, crimes that I regard as akin war crimes and human right violations.

Given that the numbers of these cases has run into the thousands and given that the Vatican has, over the centuries, kept a tight reign as to what goes on with the catholic community the following question must now be asked and answers must be demanded.

"Whom within the Vatican knew about these crimes, when they know it and what was done in relation to bringing the offenders to justice?"

I allege that many within the Vatican knew about these crimes and that, instead of bringing offenders to justice, the Vatican conspired with others to hide the offences and moved the offenders out of the way to other places often to re-offend again.

Upon the truth being revealed in a number of cases, it was the Vatican that endorsed processes as to silence the victims that either had no status in law and that were, in most countries, an offence in their own right. This being the case, I would suggest there are no exceptions in terms of the arrest, prosecuting and subsequent jailing of all sex offenders. Those within the Vatican who had knowledge of such offences and did nothing, or hindered prosecution processes, should be charged with perverting the course of justice as well as being charged with concealment of various and numerous crimes.

That would expose most of the cardinals and their hangers-on within the Vatican to criminal prosecution and it would no doubt expose the current Pope to the same processes, diplomatic immunity or not.

In my view, those who knew should now resign or sacked, as well as subject themselves to proper legal processes.
Accountability processes should be totally overhauled as to make all religious organisations as well as those running these establishments totally and publicly accountable.

As to processes at local level, I am of the view that all financial dealings by religious organisations, including the catholic church, should be transparent and available to be viewed as per any other financial entity. Accountability processes should be totally overhauled as to make all religious organisations as well as those running these establishments totally and publicly accountable which would mean that, within the various catholic diocese, all those who knew about the numerous and did nothing should now resign and be subject to criminal and legal prosecution.

As for the catholic religion proper.

People may practice as they please in terms of their choice of religion, if any, as is their right, the only comment that I would make is that I have not yet heard any airline captain mentioning that he spotted god at 33,000ft.

And on that note I would say,

My name is Henk Luf.
And That's The way It Is.






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lil says on 2011-09-19 00:21:38 about The Vatican
I have said before that i would like to see the vatican closed down and turned into the museum of terror, as i see that is the head quaters!to go back a little bit in time, to the crusades......these wars are the starting point of our wars today, if they hadn't gone into the middle east repeatedly to kill all non christians, then the world would be a completely different place today, so as i see it, justice can be served to the muslim community by closing down the vatican,and sacking the pope.
re-distrubuting the vaticans wealth to the christian communities the money came from in the first place, that way the christians can live a true christain lifestyle, helping their neighbours, and the muslims have justice when the vatican is closed!
thats my theory on how we can set true everlasting peace on earth.










alexander says on 2011-05-20 08:36:21 about the pope
the vatican and those who run the catholic church never believed in God, they saw Jesus message as something that they could use to control the masses and make themselves wealthy and powerful on earth. Thats why they didnt release fatimas 3rd secert in 1960 when they were told to do so, instead they released a fake secert in 2000 to keep the public from asking questions. Big mistake time will come when they will regret that and all the lies and deceptions they have used against this world. They didnt beleive in God but they will soon will one day.










LuckyLuke says on 2010-02-22 15:15:46 about The Pope
The Vatican City is a kingdom, an absolute monarchy where there is no personal property. Everything is in the hands of the pope. A lot of italians will be happy to clear out the Vatican State.
The catholic church has, from the italian state, the same income that the italian state spend for the whole italian Financial maneuver.

They do not spend any money for the drinkable water or for the waste and they were so able to make italians pay the teachers teaching catholic religion in the public school (or in the army, or in the hospitals, or anywhere....).

Cheers!










Sorcaress says on 2010-02-13 07:47:41 about The vatican
Seems the vatican is not amused by this article. Tough! If they ran the organisation in a timely, open and transparent manner, the problems would be much less.

And shouldn't those in 'religious' organisations be protecting children, not abusing them, then hiding the guilty parties? Come on, how blind and stupid does the vatican think the public are as to not know what has been going on for a very long time? Only power and money has stopped any action before now. It is certainly overdue for the guilty, and their hangers-on to be brought to justice. When they are, maybe those who have been abused might be able to heal and move forward.

As to the assumption of 'religious law' - isn't that just a wee bit arrogant?

And I also think it would make an excellent fine arts museum - it will surely rival the Louvre...










geoffb says on 2010-02-09 23:58:33 about The Church
If the church redirected even 1% of its bigoted hatred of gays into hatred of child molesters the problems within its clergy would soon become a thing of the past. Of course they won't - the bible, that supposed divinely inspired moral compass, forgot to mention it was wrong to abuse children.










BD says on 2010-02-09 06:20:16 about The Pope
Mr Luf's comments may be radical but sadly for the various religions, they are legally correct and appropriate. One simply cannot have a situation whereby religious leaders are able to hide the fact that those in trusted positions within the church have been and no doubt still are, conducting themselves in an inappropriate and criminal manner. To me the catholic religion needs a good clean-out and if that means sacking a pope and those around him then so be it.









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